Crazy people, taking children cruising

8 Apr
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What kind of irresponsible parent would take their children cruising? That seems to be the underlying message from many corners in the wake of the Kaufman family’s rescue in the Pacific from their boat, Rebel Heart.

It’s all too easy for me to remember the questions we had from people who didn’t understand our decision to go cruising as a family. They dove to the risks, and not to the benefits, and never considered that we had considered those risks already. This was a very deliberate choice driven by family values: not crazy hubris, not selfish interests.

Ridgetop view

Not that this stops the naysayers, who loved to let us know how we were ruining our children’s education. Placing them in harm’s way. Not to mention, of course, that they would never be properly socialized.

I remember too well what it was like, that run up to cruising: it is full of voices, some from the well-intentioned but uninformed, some in your head, some from those who need to speak against your brave choices to justify their own inaction. Don’t let them intimidate you, or let one unfortunate event spun up in the media tip your dreams. Don’t let the ridiculous fabrications of the fearful leach into your psyche.

dancing on the beach

Consider the sources, and hold tight to your supporters instead. Their voices align more closely with the reality. Cruising is the fulfillment of our dream to share precious years with our children as they grow. Countless memories and experiences enrich their lives and ours. It is turning our kids into curious, articulate citizens of the world. It has given them respect for cultures and lives beyond our home sphere. It has built our bonds as a family.

No, it’s not completely without risk, but we take great care to prepare for the tough realities, and mitigate each of them to the best of our ability. And really, what life is without risk? Whether it is natural disaster, or human error, or pure bad luck- stuff happens, whether you live on a farm in Oklahoma or a boat in Mexico or a condo in San Francisco. None of us are immune, no matter how we navigate our futures.

mairen and bryce

Irresponsible? Crazy? If that’s the bucket we get tossed in, well, I’m proud to be a member of the tribe that’s chosen to raise children differently. For a look at how we really live, see Normalizing the View of Family Life Afloat.

You know it drives us extra crazy when you read this on the Sailfeed website.


  1. Barbara (Bobi) Holbrook

    (Our site is currently hacked, and in Chinese; it’s under reconstruction and will be up ASAP.)
    The Kaufman Family is well-connected, respectful, loving and caring, thoughtful, curious, interested, and vibrant. This was NOT a trip-taken-lightly for them, and we all shared in their preparations, plans and enthusiasm. Without being part of a “Cruising Community”, one cannot know the hundreds of minute preparations discussed, then undertaken, with the ‘blessing’ of people with combined experience of hundreds of years of sailing; Cruisers are one of those groups that do “Rise to their highest level of intelligence” by having conversations concerning real, life-improving possibilities, problems, situations and solutions. I admire the strength it takes to be an Adventurer, and the desire required to demand the BEST OF THE WORLD for their children. We have met literally hundreds of “Boat Kids”, and raised two of them ourselves, and they are MORE socially-adept, more grounded, responsible, strong of body and mind, and creative than ‘land kids’, also more curious, more socially-aware, empathetic and thoughtful than many, many of the ‘landers’ I’ve EVER met! The Community is FULL of people of every life-experience, and each freely shares that with all others: teachers hold discussions on their favorite topics, American Astronauts spend hours discussing aeronautics and folding paper airplanes, biologists, chefs, mechanics, they ALL share what they love, and it gets soaked up by the adults and the children!! I love nearly all children, and have been accused of carrying a big-bag so I can steal them (not true!) but to meet children who have begged to attend school in a ‘foreign land’, who have seen the wonders of the world with their own eyes (and mouths, and noses!) and who speak 3,5, or 7 languages comfortably, simply can’t be called “Sheltered”, “Socially inept”, or “Confined”. On ‘shore days’, you’ll find “Boat kids” sharing what they love, and doing SOMETHING to leave this world better than they found it! If WE don’t aspire to MORE, then who WILL?

  2. David

    These same people who criticize sailing families will put their children in a mini-van and cruise them at 80 miles per hour down the freeway. They will allow their boys to play high school football, do ultimate skateboarding, play paintball and violent video games, ride BMX bicycles and jump motorcyles for fun and sport.

    Hipocrytes, every one.

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  4. Captain Steve Leeds

    As a sailor who circumnavigated the world for 12 years with my wife and (then) four year old son I was dismayed at the negative comments from many about this incident. I, of course, have no knowledge of the condition of their boat, their own preparation or of the judgements they made. I know in our case, I felt our boat was well prepared, that we were prepared and that we started slowly and only advanced to the next step as we felt ready. We were very healthy along the way and tried to minimize risk by sailing in the correct seasons. My son was home schooled the entire time, attended university on a scholarship, graduated as a computer engineer with honors and is currently employed as an engineer. We ate every meal together, built responsibility and confidence in him, discussed everything and became very close. We too had concerns about socialization – he now has many friends from numerous backgrounds and ethnicities as he is very comfortable with everyone. We felt safer in other countries and allowed him much freedom. Of the many cruising kids we met, the worst was far better than most kids you would met here at home. Of the many highlights of this adventure for us was how our son turned out. I was told in the beginning that I shouldn’t wait until he is too old or he would become a “land kid” and not enjoy the trip, which I now believe is true. My wifes only criteria was that he be potty trained and know how to swim. I’m glad we did it and encourage others to do it.

  5. Michael Mankins

    2 questions, what was the condition of the boat and the health of the youngest child before casting off. I saw pictures supposedly of the family’s boat (don’t know when made) that showed peeling varnish and frayed ropes. I read that the youngest child was still undergoing treatment for salmonella when they sailed.


    People are down on what they’re not up on. Sadly, they also listen to the numbheads in the media who spout drivel on subjects they also know nothing about. It makes my skin crawl when I hear the news media explain that “the aircraft engine stalled causing the airplane to crash.” These are two distinct and separate events. As anyone who’s seen the great pilot Robert Hoover will attest, an airplane can not only fly, but do loops, rolls and land safely with the engines off, with the proper energy management. Life is only totally safe if no risks are ever taken–but is that REALLY a life? My hat is off to all cruising families who would rather SEE the world as it IS rather than READ about it in some book.

  7. Tyler

    I’ve sailed my whole life. Grew up racing 420’s and then J-boats. Cruise regularly on my own boat. Love the water. Work from my boat. Make the water my life. I also understand the risks (sometimes extreme) that wind, weather and tides bring and how far away a sailing vessel can be from help when it’s most needed. I have a feeling that some of the people who have commented here have never felt a sense of fear on a boat (read: 80 foot swells and 80 mph winds). Cruising with my family? Toddler or two of three- or four-years-old? Sure. I provision liberally and pack with redundancy and safety in mind. (I certainly have a helluva lot more sense to have a backup hose in case, say, a hole develops between my seacock and the raw water intake so we don’t take on water every time I turn the engine on.) But kids turn from glass to rubber right around three years-old. Cruising with a 1-year-old? No thanks. With toddlers and young children you have more time to get emergency help. With a baby, a lot of severe stuff can go wrong fast, requiring immediate attention. This isn’t 1860… we don’t use sailboats as a main form of transportation anymore. It’s a choice. Tradition? Go sing a sea shanty. Sailing means recreation and adventure. As an adult, great, make the decision to challenge YOURSELF and put yourself at risk, but leave your baby on-shore.

  8. Rick Warner

    The same people who are casting stones at this young family are most likely part of a heritage where a previous generation took their young children in a Conestoga wagon over the western plains or took their young children in a sailing ship to the new world in seeking a better life. We have forgotten what makes for greatness and are rapidly becoming a nation of weenies.

  9. chip

    I think it’s ironic that the critics put their families in automobiles, which are way more dangerous,and yet think nothing of it. I wish my parents were as adventurous. The real stick in my craw is when the issue of education is thrown around. I don’t think we’re getting our monies worth out of our public schools any how. Road scholors naw ocean scholors. I bet kids on the boat education system probably know mathamatics,reading, geography and how to think for them selves better than most.

  10. First Last

    Two of my comments posted on Yahoo were:
    1. “If you want to be the perfect sailor, seaman, mariner; do not ever cast off the lines.” ( 0 Thumbs up, 1 Thumbs down)

    2. “Of course, there are blogs of, blah, blah blah, talking about child endangerment, what does it cost, charge the parents, being ill prepared, etc. And many are non sailors and are clueless about traditions of the sea. I strongly suggest you return to the safety of your chairs and hone your skills of being an “Arm Chair Sailor” ” (I received 3 Thumbs up and 7 Thumbs down)

    At 8 weeks my youngest son was packed into a bassinet, place on the cabin sole of a Cal 24 and accompanied the rest of the family on many trips across Lake Ontario and the Thousands Islands. No complaints from him. Just like riding in mommy’s “tummy”

  11. James Stevens

    We have recently read about the tragic accident in California. These kids were doing something as prosaic as riding a bus.Much better to take some risks while living large. I hope that the Kaufman family ignores the “Harpies of the shore” and their provincial attitudes.A sailor, I am saddened by the loss of Rebel Heart and hope that Lyra recovers rapidly so they may resume their voyaging.

  12. oldenavy

    It is no secret that the world has dangers. The brave among us prepare to face those dangers knowing that we might fail. But we teach our children to be brave rather than to cower in the shadows fearing the unknown demons. I want brave children not thumb-suckers.

  13. Louis Bullard

    To be able to live in a way that works with nature rather than cower behind walls is a gift. Learning how to read what the weather is bringing and preparing to meet builds incredible confidence.

  14. Elizabeth

    Wow, can you imagine if the first settlers of this or any country did not proceed because of the potential risks? We’d all live on a postage stamp!
    People are scared of the unknown so it’s easier to criticize from a place of ignorance than to seek more information and then form an opinion.
    What’s sad is people listen to the numskulls on TV. Just look at who gets elected. Not by whether they are appropriate to serve, but because their name is more recognized, even if it’s for what they’ve done wrong.
    I hope that the Kaufmans get back on the horse and fulfill their dream.
    No naysayer is going to keep from sailing around the world in 2015!
    Sail Away Girl

  15. Brian Cairns

    I say people should mind there own business.
    I saw Al Roker going on the war path. I believe he is an idiot and I believe the weather channel’s entire liberal agenda is liberal tripe.
    People travel, People live. People have every right to live as they wish.
    Frankly I think most of these people are jealous of a life style they cannot fathom ever being a part. Bully to those who teach their children what life can truly be by showing them the world!
    This topic is just another example of the nanny state, mind set, PC that is prevalent in American society and is a cancer to our liberty and our freedom.

  16. Pic

    Where better to demonstrate to your offspring, the
    values of responsiblity, reliability, and philosophy
    of individual service? They don’t have safety bus transport to school, or armed guards at the school door, but they are surrounded by loving family. Take your pick; don’t force your selection on others.
    Tradition of the seas calls for aid to vessels in
    distress. It doesn’t necessarily need to be a
    government vessel; it could be a nearby freighter,
    tanker, or even another family vessel in the vicinity.

  17. Wannabe Sailor

    Families have forever lived on boats and sailed the world on boats and probably without all the media and public frenzy. Perhaps the same military should now be checking boats for underage travelers. We read every day of someone being rescued at sea – race participants, adults with a life threatening illness, casual boaters, irresponsible drinkers making dumb mistakes. I don’t think the fact that this is a child needing assistance should be any different or the parents blamed as irresponsible. I’ve questioned many a story read in the paper about rescues and wondered if the Coast Guard, our military or any other nation should be responsible for assisting “boaters”. But they give this service without question, so where do you want them to draw the line if we question every rescue and ask whether it was due to someone’s reckless actions?

  18. Beverly Newberry

    Go for it.yes you have to prepare, think about how you would handle situations you encounter,prepare you boat, leave float plan , ect,enjoy the challenge, the water, the people you meet, each other, the encouner you kids will have that broaden their horizons, appreciate people with various lifestyles, maybe even learn something about other cultures,another language, in short a broad education. it is harder with younger children but if you prepared to accept that you may have to “change coarse'”,you will be rewarded with increased understanding, coping skills, confidence, self awareness and pleasure. I can’t think of a better education or more important parental responsibilities

  19. Seb Sailor

    This discussion (like many similar ones) is so fruitless because it lacks any hard facts and data. How much more dangerous is it REALLY to sail across the Pacific in a 36 ft boat vs. daily life (in the US, for instance)? There are just very few people who’ve tried, and we only hear from those who write about it afterwards – those are clearly the ones who escaped at least grievous harm – or, on the opposite end, when a rescue at see is spun into a “big story” by the media. So the statistics are simply not (easily) available – is it as dangerous as mountain climbing? tightrope walking? I personally am too “chicken” to sail too far away from land for help in a medical or other emergency – and those can always occur, especially with children (as, apparently, in this case). I do admire anyone who weighs the danger vs. the (indisputable) benefits and decides to go – but does that allow you to make that decision for someone else who clearly cannot make it for themselves (small children)? On the other hand, there are many children who are exposed to dangers by their parents without ever leaving solid ground… I was actually taken aback by a comment made by Matt Rutherford (whom nobody can accuse of being too timid – when his OWN safety is concerned) who seemed to think that the couple in this case acted irresponsibly.

  20. Outsider

    I take it those here who say crap about Americans are Europeans or some other nationality who is taking in our American dollars for support in some way or have our military covering there ass. Pip and sailor1914 Show the overseas ignorance of the armchair few. One here calls it a lifestyle a few say a sport. Really sailing is a sport much like race car driving. I can’t wait to see kids riding if the front seat with there dad going 180 on a Grand Prix or oval track. hey it’s a sport!!!

  21. Outsider

    I’m a nonsailor and a non parent , the Kaufman’s were iresposable and self centered. They left with all they needed!. Your kidding right!! Your child gets sick and your going around the world in a small and what turned out to be up dependable boat. This shows the same self center neglect as stranded hikers, buried snow skiers, and others who wonder off and want others to save there dumb ass when they get in trouble. I hope the navy and coast Gaurd recoupe the money spent saving them from such a airigent ignorant desission of self loth and unapreshative behavior. You should have left your kids with Inlaws and gone off and gotten your own selves in this predicament … The kids are to young to even know what you’ve done to them!!! No more then they know who the Easter bunny is!!!!!!! Grow up slackers!!

  22. OldETC

    Not only will other drive down the freeway at 80, they will do it holding their dog, texting and with their kids in the front seat.

    Sailing is as safe as any other outdoor sport. There are risks, you face storms, issues with the boat, huge fish, and whales and other large obstacles (think shipping containers, or logs from islands or even sunken boats). But using good navigation, the literal rule of thumb for safety and following sound practices, all will be as Nature (or if you prefer, God) intends.

    What school, what physics course, what geography course, what experience can compare? NONE!!!

    Sell up, and sail out. Look for fresh air, new lands, meet new people, learn new customs, but most of all LIVE!

  23. Rob Waring

    Tom Neale’s daughter is the perfect candidate to debunk all this ill placed concern over a cruising couple’s decision to set off with small children in tow. Her book on growing up afloat is excellent……

  24. Jay Bernard

    I sail, and if I had the resources I would be out there with them with my child in tow. Remember the same critics said the same about Laura Dekker. They would rather have had her playing video games and watching MTV while popping birth control pills. It’s the same old crap criticize what you don’t understand! Do the research you haters cruising family’s have some of the most educated and well rounded children.

  25. Lynda

    I am horrified that people would frown upon a hands on education that overshadows anything on TV or daycare. I am also embarrassed that Americans can actually ask who should pay for the rescue??? We send billions overseas to governments that hate us, but don’t use our tax dollars to save an American family. Shame on you, I will sail to get away from these attitudes. The critics are fools. The world is the best way to learn about nature, survival, and other cultures. What are your kids doing? Playing video games????

  26. Harvey J, Karten

    The notion that events occurring prior to 5 years of age do not influence our development is nonsense. When do we learn language, motor skills, social relationsihps, emotional responsiveness, trust, and open minded ability to learn new things? The church has long recognized this, and recognizes that “give me a child before 5 and we will have them for life”. We have friends who take their kids skiing, surfing and hiking at 2 and 3 years of age. Little doubt that it influences their sense of adventure, exploratory behavior, self confidence.
    I suspect that the parents on Rebel Heart have spent many hours plannning safety and educational goalls for their kids.

  27. Chelo

    If you remember what you did before you were 5 years old, you really have a privileged mind.

    I am in full favor of cruising or world travelling with my kids, but I believe that before the age of 5 is a risk without benefit for the kid.

  28. Ralph Ahseln

    Ah Yes, I’m a sailor of some years, a parent who took his children into Harm’s Way a few times. And like the Closed Society we have in this and other Sail boating communities, I TOO spoke loudly Trying to Justify my actions. Truth ? IF, this were a couple Down the street on dry land, who’d put their kids into a dangerous place, The Screams of Protest would echo off the walls of many a justice building, BUT, since it’s in “OUR SPORT”, we’ll hear those same voices telling us, With egotistic poetry, that it wasn’t a big deal and that “THEY have done it and their Kids are Geniuses NOW because of the Experience.
    Shorten up your Lines and think a minute, A Two year old and a one year old and they claimed “7 years of experience” ? Do the math and then do less Knee Jerk justification … Please

  29. Frank Roosa

    The boat is their home and they have done this for years. Now they have lost their home and hell’s bell’s people have the right to live how they please. They said it about my wife and I when we took off with kids. They had a great education and don’t forget, these folks turned back and called in for help. They did the right thing.

  30. Joe Jares

    Hey Just read ” Family at Sea” if you can find it if it isn’t out of print. It is the second book of the trilogy “Desperate Voyage” and finally “Mary’s Voyage” they had a baby while voyaging.

  31. Larry Gotch

    You need to send this to Newport Patch. The Patch is a daily e-news that allows people to respond to articles. The Kaufmans story got hammered there, mostly by non boaters. Read the blog.

  32. Captain deb

    I don’t think rebel heart was irresponsible at all. All power to them to want to have their family experience the world rather than have their kids sit in front of a video game!

  33. Edward F. Sliwinski

    Well stated, Behan. It’s truly a life experience enriching in every regard. If I could, I would do it in a heartbeat and admire those that do.

  34. John Poindexter

    I am a cruising sailor and a professional naval officer who has sailed the oceans of the world. The General Prudential Rule applies to more than just navigating. Apply it to other decisions on cruising and don’t stay fixed on schedules when they can be changed.

  35. Mauru"uru

    The criticism is invalid from all but those who have done it and know first hand……ahhhhh but the armchair sailors/parents would be left out in the cold.

  36. PIP

    Americans are idiots. They critize this cruising couple, yet they will take their same 8 month old baby,strap them in the back of a car seat and drive 80mph down the highway everyday and think nothing of it.

  37. Jim Trent

    Imagine living in a community where there are no school shootings, mall shootings, drive-by shootings, theater shotings. Imagine a place where all cultures are respected and treated equal. Imagine a place where neighbors are always ready and willing to lend a hand when you are in need. Imagine a place of unrivaled beauty and pristine, clear waters. Welcome to cruising! And they say we are the crazy ones???

  38. dixon hemphill

    I am a sailor who still believes taking a baby on a trip around the world is a bit foolish. Had the baby not been aboard it’s very likely the experienced skipper could have kept the boat afloat and maybe sailed it to a safe harbor. Think of the hundreds of thousands it cost for their rescue!

  39. Phil Hinton

    When my brother and I were small children we were at a ski lift in the summer and you could ride to the top of the mountain. My mother is afraid of heights so she wasn’t going but my brother and I were all for it. As we ascended in the chair lift and our mother stayed behind watching us go another woman behind her said “What sort of damn fool woman would let her kids ride such a thing”
    And so it is with life, each of us can only see it from our own perspective, and we are all to quick to judge other people based on what little information we have. I say life is an adventure and you should go for all of it you can. It’s better to be shot from a cannon than squeezed from a tube. I hope they are able to get another boat and are able to continue their trip. I only wish I could join them.

  40. Lenny

    Has anyone seen any information on what, exactly, happened to incapacitate the steering and why it couldn’t be fixed? To the extent that there was any irresponsibility on the part of the parents it would really be if they were not prepared and/or equipped to deal with significant repairs underway.

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  42. Ed Narvid

    I’ve met several cruising families with young children. Talking with the children is remarkable. They are articulate, knowledgable, respectful, self reliant and many other good attributes. They have a broader and more rounded view of the world than many of the children in the US who are raised on cell phones and TV. More power to anyone who takes to the cruising lifestyle.

  43. Peter S

    Almost no accidents happen to those who stay home and in bed.
    Since siting is the new smoking.
    That is another whole risk.

    For a young person to be able to see the effects of what they
    do is the beginning of the road to learn to think.

    To realize you can is another big plus.

    Life should not be a spectator sport.


  44. judy fravel

    Thank you Behan for your response to the situation the Kaufman family has had to endure. They were well prepared and set out as a family eager to sail the world.Situations occur in life be in on land ,sea or as we all know in the air. They made the right calls and the team that rescued them were hero’s.

    We send the family our love and prayers. We hope that soon again we will be given the opportunity to read their sailing blog.

    Love to the family Behan
    xo Mum

  45. Seven Cs

    So sorry to hear about Eric and his family. The loss of the boat is a huge disappointment, but the bright side is that all family members are safe.

    We really appreciate the way you bring out both aspects of cruising: the huge benefits to the kids and the possibilities of problems also. We know how safety minded you and Jamie are. Our time with you in Mexico was a good confirmation of that :)

  46. DukeLaw

    I think your post is slightly disingenuous. Not very many posters are complaining about the cruising lifestyle but about this particular set of circumstances.

    From what I can gather you and your husband are accomplished sailors and you started the cruising lifestyle when your kids were 3, 5, and 8. That’s a poor comparison to the Kaufmans where the husband had some experience (but not as much as yours) and the wife was a reluctant sailor. Take into account that their one year old had just gotten over (or was still suffering) from salmonella, then you should question why they started their trip when they did. Why not keep on cruising up and down the coasts like the previous 7 years till their kids get a little older (and the wife a bit more capable of handling two kids on a boat).

  47. kirsty

    Hi Behan, my heart sank yesterday morning when I read about the Kaufmans, I can’t even imagine what they must have gone through, having a sick child and needing rescuing would be trauma enough and then losing ‘rebel heart’ – so, so sad. I saw only a couple of the negative comments made and that was enough for me. There are always going to be narrow minded, uninformed people who have an opinion about circumstances they know nothing of. Thankfully there will always be people like you and your family who will show the rest of us how to really LIVE and be ALIVE!

  48. Burke

    Damn Right, Behan! Our hearts have been deeply touched by Rebel Heart’s difficulties. Our family’s 49 days on passage and two years cruising a couple years ago — when Quinn was five and younger — remain our “great event,” the experience we draw from still, when we think about who we are. We are champing at the bit to go again!
    We see the lasting benefits every day, in the quiet confidence of our young son as he navigates the more mainstream challenges of life back here in North America. At a personal level, the intimacy born of a family’s time in the close quarters of a sailboat are a profound and lasting gift of that “risky behaviour.”
    The pounding this young couple are taking in the press is shameful — and typical of the fear-based world view that dominates so much of our public dialogue. The challenge is simply this — with all the pressure to “just get in line,” how do we carve out our own meaning, set our own course?
    Know what’s crazy? NOT doing something great with your kids. Thank you for an articulate restatement of the lesson we all know is the only one that counts: Seize the Day!

  49. Jo-Anne Stang

    Very well said. I only wished I had done what you are doing while my children were young.

    There are risks in everything that we do in life. What your children are learning is so much more than what they could learn in a traditional school.

    Bravo to you and the other families that are doing the same. My hat is off to you.

  50. Olivia

    Hi from Miami! Very well stated. I have been following you on your adventures and have always thought what a beautiful experience you have given your children. Very unfortunate what happened to Rebel Heart. And our thoughts and prayers go out to them in this difficult time. We have been living and traveling aboard our sailboat going on three years. And LOVE the life! We have seen lots of children on boats and these kids are so in tuned with nature. Respectful, intelligent souls, mindful of their surroundings and most importantly the connection between family is so nice to see. I say Cheers to the crazy ones! And many the tribe keep growing and prosper nature!

  51. Neal Schneider

    My sympathies go out to the Kaufman family for the loss of their boat and for having to go through the trauma of being rescued at sea. I am relieved that everyone is safe and that the girl’s health in not in danger. There is a large community that has taken this incident to heart.

    It’s precisely the same community that makes such a convincing argument to take children cruising. What better way to teach children about the value of helping someone in need and the gratitude that one feels when they have been helped. The families, couples and even the single-handers who sail the seas create a natural bond and high level of trust. Most cruisers have an attitude of assistance that is distinctly lacking in most cities and towns. It is a community in which children can thrive. In addition to that, the real-life experiences, the exposure to different cultures, the close cooperation with nature and living without telephones or television makes a unique and genuine environment in which to provide an education that goes far beyond classrooms and books.

  52. Tommy Andre Østby

    Hello from Norway :) i think what you are doing is great!! what better school than to let your child see and meet different people around the world… love to follow you :)

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